I need the most huge book any body has ever seen or heard about before,
I am asking experts who are writing books :
How did you get your informations that qualify you to write a book?

are you gonna tell me MSDN ,
ok it's huge very very huge ,but it's organized just to help you to do something you missed ,you didn't understand ..... but you already know it .it can't tell you about things you don't know ...can it ?
why don't books go over (1000) page , if they don't they can't explain so much ..... at least that's what I see .

if any body can tell me about the book I need I ........ I would be very very grateful

thanks for everybody from sky walker

Obviously you haven't paid too much attention to who writes books.

1) A lot of books do go over 1000 pages. I have 3 or 4 of them.
2) Most books these days are written by teams of people. Most of my books are written by 4 to 6 people.
3) They often write from their own experience, supplemented by references from other sources both online and other books.
4) Many of the writers have 5+ years of programming experience in the given language/technology. (That makes 20-30+ years of combined experience between the authors)
5) Often times the authors are also the people actively developing the standard itself. A lot of microsoft press authors are also the developers who helped invent the language.

Last but not least, I do want to say you can get plenty of info from a programming book under 1000 pages. I have some great 800+ page books that do a wonderful job.

Sure they are not going to repeat every single command and function, but they do show you the most common ones, show you the techniques and then point or reference the areas where you can look up more. Never do the authors ever say that it is an exhaustive fully complete version of a language because that would be foolish.

Even if you did make it exhaustive, it would be a waste because the next version would change half of what you wrote 6 months later.

And even once in awhile they do make mistakes in the book. I catch errors in code on a regular basis. Like anything books are a guide and a great starting point, never a fully definitive source of knowledge. Even if O'Reilly publishing (and my blog) do have a series with the word "definitive" in it.

Largest book I own...C# 2005 by Wrox with 1315 pages not including index.



This post has been edited by Martyr2: 14 Jun, 2008 - 03:23 PM

Thanks Martyr2

I feel like I'm a fool right now ( do I look like one ??? )
you got me frustrated , you're saying (5) years ....... are they enough ??.
I see they are enough to get someone an expert in a version of a language like VB6 , when he sees the VB.Net 2003 he will return a new student , and he will need to search again how to do every thing he knows in VB6

I don't want to get an author, but I faced a problem in my start in the programming world ...
I entered the computer world 2 years ago when I got into the (Computer Engineering Institute) I didn't like any thing about this world except programming ,
they started teaching us (VB6) basics , so I started by my self reading (VB6) advanced topics books ( out of the course)
and I got real information that I loved being know.
(I know I'm so so so so so far to be a programmer ,
but I wrote two small (2D) games and some utilities using VB6 ,
and they are great for an experience like mine # 4 to 6 months #
)
but that took time and effort from me .
I heard about (VB.Net 2003 ) and that was the shock to me
( after all that ????!!!!! )
I started searching here and there in VB 2003 for commands that I know in VB 6 , I found most of them after I read some book about (VB 2003 ) and that took time and effort too .

after a while I read a book speaking about things I didn't hear about ( Reflection , Serialization , MultiThreading , Inheritance small details ,.....)

here's what I'm looking for ( and I'm so sorry it's a long topic I'm not finding the right way to ask ,... here again feel my self a fool )
1 - How could I think about somethings like ( Reflection , Serialization , .....) if someone didn't tell me that there is something called

so and it's used like so .... ????
now I after he gave me the first steps about these new stuffs I will sure go back the MSDN to actually use them and fix errors ...
that's why I came to this forum , to stick with experts who have experiences
2 - some users of programming languages ( I'm not talking abot experts) have an idea that when they try to write an app and need

something they just ask for that thinf , and this is not my idea . mine is learn and learn and learn then you can think much better and

and be more creative (that's what I see at least) so , I don't know what more interesting helpful things this language has (and it

does) , I need the book for this .

I'm asking for a huge book becase most of the books I saw start by basic things which take a big part of the book
so it's ok to be a small book if it focuses on advanced stuffs

I think I've encounter books like that. But in my opinion there's no such thing as a complete book that will tell you everything you need to know.

Search for books that has a " bible" word attach to it; vb.net bible. Something like that should exist.

Your way of approaching programming is certainly GREAT if your mind is actually a computer that can store large quantity of lessons and ideas but I think its not. The brain has limitations. In my opinion only learn those you need unless your mind has a 40 gb or higher harddrive.

first ,I'm so sorry I was so busy in my exams .

second , thanks for every one tried to help me , that was a lot of support.

well I came here to take advices from experts like you guys , and if you say that my idea about books is not really right then I will change it , because I need your advices , especially that I'm going to upgrade my self from (VB.Net 2003 ) to (VB.Net 2005)

oh u choosed a good programming language,i don't know about 2003 but 2005 is easy and :winktu:

if you know 2003 then its not hard learning 2005. It all comes down into learning the .net framework. Just learn the .net framework and your all set.

I hope so ....
thanks for your supporting

i am going to learn java script and frontpage,i heared that frontpage uses html so i don't think i will have some troubles with it but what about java script?
can i use both of them in webdeveloper?